Thursday, June 13, 2019

Archery News

At the 2019 Hyundai World Archery Championships, s-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands

[QF] India bt Chinese Taipei 6-0 (55-52, 55-48, 55-54)
[SF] India bt The Netherlands 5-4 (54-56, 52-49, 56-57, 57-55, 29-28)

[F] India vs China

A day after securing the 2020 Tokyo Olympics three-man quota, the India trio of Tarundeep Rai, Atanu Das and Pravin Jadhav made their way into the finals, where they will be up against China ... Our team reached in the final of World Archery Championships for the first time since 2005 ... Our team faced a stiff challenge by the Dutch team, where the formidable Dutch team was up a couple of time 0-2 and 2-4 ... But both time our Archers fought back to win the match.

Tennis News

At € 754K Mercedes Cup 2019, Stuttgart, Germany (Grass)

[QF] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Denis Shapovalov (CAN) bt (WC) Lucas Pouille (FRA)/ Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA) 64 63

[SF] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Denis Shapovalov (CAN) vs Nick Kyrgios (AUS)/ Matt Reid (AUS)

Rohan and Shapo r in the semis with straight sets win over a French pair ... Next, they r facing an Aussie pairing of Kyrgios and Reid.

At €137K+H Nottingham Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[R2] Saketh Myneni (IND,229) l (10) Sebastian Ofner (AUT,145) 46 57

Doubles
[R1] Rameez Junaid (AUS)/ Leander Paes (IND) l (3) Ken Skupski (GBR)/ John-Patrick Smith (AUS) 46 67(4)

Saki gave a decent performance against a top-150 Ofner in his loss.

Lee lost in the first round with Junaid against the 3rd seeds.

At € 92K+H Lyon Challenger 2019, France

[R3] Sumit Nagal (IND,272) bt Uladzimir Ignatik (BLR,263) 61 36 63

[QF] Sumit Nagal (IND,272) vs (1) Albert Ramos-Vinolas (ESP,101)

Doubles
[R1] Ruben Gonzales (PHI)/ Vishnu Vardhan (IND) l Simone Bolelli (ITA)/ Andrea Pellegrino (ITA) 46 46

Sumit required three sets to win over Ignatik ... After winning the first set comfortably Sumit lost the second ... He recovered to win the final set ... In the quarters, Sumit having a tough match against the former top20 player, Albert Ramos-Vinolas.

Vishnu and his partner lost in straight sets against an Italian pair.

Wednesday, June 12, 2019

Archery News

At the 2019 Hyundai World Archery Championships, s-Hertogenbosch, Netherlands

P.C. to OGQ_India twitter handle
Recurve Men Team
[R1] India bt Norway 5-1 (55-55, 59-56, 57-56)
[R2] India bt Canada 5-3 (56-55, 57-56, 54-58, 57-57)

[QF] India vs Chinese Taipei

Big congrats to Indian men archers! Indian Men's Recurve Archery team of Tarundeep Rai, Atanu Das and Pravin Jadhav defeated the Canadian team to reach the quarterfinals of World Archery Championships ... With that, they secured a full 3 member Quota for India for the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games.

But our women Recurve team lost in the pre-quarterfinals to the Belarusian team 2-6.

Tennis News

At € 754K Mercedes Cup 2019, Stuttgart, Germany (Grass)

[R1] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Denis Shapovalov (CAN) bt (3) Bob Bryan (USA)/ Mike Bryan (USA) 64 36 10-6

[QF] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Denis Shapovalov (CAN) vs (WC) Lucas Pouille (FRA)/ Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (FRA)

A superb upset win for Rohan and Shapo against Bryans in the match tie-break ... Next, they r facing a French pairing of Tsonga and Pouille.

At $250K Nature Valley Open 2019, Nottingham, Great Britain (Grass)

[R1] (LL) Ankita Raina (IND,173) l (LL) Chloe Paqyet (FRA,168) 75 46 26

Ankita got a chance to play as a lucky loser and faced another lucky loser a French girl, Paqyet ... But Ankita lost after winning the first set on the indoors.

At €137K+H Nottingham Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[R2] (11) Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,143) l Ruben Bemelmans (BEL,185) 16 06

A bad loss for Ram against Bemelmans on the indoors.

At € 92K+H Lyon Challenger 2019, France

[R2] Sumit Nagal (IND,272) bt (8) Quentin Halys (FRA,159) 63 62

[R3] Sumit Nagal (IND,272) vs Uladzimir Ignatik (BLR,263)

Doubles
[R1] Ruben Gonzales (PHI)/ Vishnu Vardhan (IND) vs Simone Bolelli (ITA)/ Andrea Pellegrino (ITA)

Sumit continues with his good form, he defeated the top-160 ranked Frenchman, Quentin Halys, comfortably ... Next, he is facing a similar ranked Belarusian, Uladzimir Ignatik.

Tuesday, June 11, 2019

Tennis News

At €137K+H Nottingham Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[R1] Saketh Myneni (IND,229) bt Mats Moraing (GER,219) 76 63

[R2] Saketh Myneni (IND,229) vs (10) Sebastian Ofner (AUT,145)

The matches shifted to the indoors due to rain … Saki started with a win over similar ranked Moraing … Next, he is facing the top-150 ranked Ofner.

At $54K+H Columbus-2 Challenger 2019, Ohio, U.S.A.

[R1] Arjun Kadhe (IND)/ Volodoymyr Uzhylovskyi (UKR) l (4) Zhe Li (CHN)/ Yatusaka Uchiyama (JPN) 46 36

A disappointing US tour for Arjun, as he failed to win a single match.

Hockey News

At the FIH Hockey Series Final 2019, Bhubaneswar, India

India bt Uzbekistan 10-0 (7-0)
Goal Scorers - Varun Kumar (IND) 4' PC and 22' PC, Akashdeep Singh (IND) 11', 26' and 53', Amit Rohidas (IND) 15', Nilkanta Sharma (IND) 27', Mandeep Singh (IND) 30' and 60' and Gursahibjit Singh (IND) 45'

We scored an expected comfortable win over the Uzbek team ... But not impressed with our performance as we missed a hell of chances and again saw stupid passes, missed interceptions and poor defending ... Sad to see our players repeating the same mistakes again and again.

Monday, June 10, 2019

Tennis News

At € 754K Mercedes Cup 2019, Stuttgart, Germany (Grass)

[R1] Marcelo Demoliner (BRA)/ Divij Sharan (IND) l Denys Molchanov (UKR)/ Artem Sitak (NZL) 75 67(14) 9-11

A heartbreaking loss for Divij and Marcelo ... They missed multiple match points in their first-round loss against Sitak and Molchanov.

At € 92K+H Lyon Challenger 2019, France

[R1] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) bt (Alt) Hugo Nys (MON,337) 64 62

[R2] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) vs (8) Quentin Halys (FRA,159)

Doubles
[R1] Ruben Gonzales (PHI)/ Vishnu Vardhan (IND) vs Simone Bolelli (ITA)/ Andrea Pellegrino (ITA)

Sumit started with a comfortable win over Nys ... Next, he is facing the top-160 Frenchman, Quentin Halys.

In the doubles, Vishnu is having a tough match against the Italian pair with Ruben Gonzales.


At $54K+H Columbus-2 Challenger 2019, Ohio, U.S.A.

[Q1] Arjun Kadhe (IND,401) l (2) Dennis Novikov (USA,400) 16 0-3

Doubles
[R1] Arjun Kadhe (IND)/ Volodoymyr Uzhylovskyi (UKR) vs (4) Zhe Li (CHN)/ Yatusaka Uchiyama (JPN)

Arjun's struggle continues ... He retired in the second set in this one-sided match.

Sunday, June 09, 2019

Tennis News

At $250K Nature Valley Open 2019, Nottingham, Great Britain (Grass)

[Q1] (8) Ankita Raina (IND,170) bt Kai-Lin Zhang (CHN,204) 63 retd.

[Q2] (8) Ankita Raina (IND,170) l Ellen Perez (AUS,207) 16 63 36

Ankita lost in the final qualifying round against an Aussie, Ellen Perez, in three sets ... After losing the first set easily Ankita tried fightback and won the second set ... But she failed to keep momentum in the third to lose the match ... Before that, she defeated Kai-Lin, when she retired from the match after losing the first set.

At €137K+H Surbiton Challenger 2019, Great Britain

Doubles Final
Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) l (1) Marcel Granollers (ESP)/ Ben McLachlan (JPN) 64 36 2-10

Ram and Soonwoo lost in the final after winning the first set ... The top-seed pairing of Granollers and McLachlan dominated the final after losing the first set.

At €137K+H Nottingham Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[R1] Saketh Myneni (IND,223) vs Mats Moraing (GER,219)
[R1] (11) Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,143) bye

Doubles
[R1] (3) Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND)/ Purav Raja (IND) vs (WC) Daniel Evans (GBR)/ Lloyd Glasspool (GBR)
[R1] N. Sriram Balaji (IND)/ Jamie Cerretani (USA) vs (WC) Evan Hoyt (GBR)/ Luke Johnson (GBR)
[R1] Rameez Junaid (AUS)/ Leander Paes (IND) vs (3) Ken Skupski (GBR)/ John-Patrick Smith (AUS)

Good to see Saki is playing on the grass before Wimbledon qualifying ... He is facing a similar ranked German, Mats Moraing and Ram is having a bye as a seeded player.

In the doubles, tough matches for our pairs ... Jeevan and Purav are getting a big grass court match practice against the in-form British pair ... Bala and Cerretani r facing another British wild-card pair ... Lee is playing with Junaid and they r facing the 3rd seed, Ken Skupski and John-Patrick Smith.


At € 92K+H Lyon Challenger 2019, France

[R1] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) vs (Alt) Hugo Nys (MON,337)

Sumit is playing in the French challenger and facing Hugo Nys in the first round.

Saturday, June 08, 2019

Football News

At the 47th King's Cup 2019, Buriram, Thailand

The 3rd Place play-off
India bt Thailand 1-0 (1-0)
Goal Scored - Anirudh Thapa (IND) 17'

A new-look Indian football team defeated hosts Thailand 1-0 to give our head coach Igor Stimac his first win and finish third in the King’s Cup tournament ... Stimac made wholesome changes, as eight changes from the starting eleven which lost to Curacao 1-3 in their previous match ... Stimac rested key players like Sunil Chhetri, Udanta Singh, and goalkeeper Gurpreet Singh Sandhu ... This was our 2nd win over Thai team in 6 months as we defeated them in AFC Cup in January.

Tennis News

At € 754K Mercedes Cup 2019, Stuttgart, Germany (Grass)

[Q1] (1) Prajnesh Gunneswaran (IND,88) l Matteo Viola (ITA,250) 76(6) 67(0) 1-2 retd.
[Q1] (WC) Sasi Kumar Mukund (IND,283) l (8) Gregoire Barrere (FRA,127) 36 46

Doubles
[R1] Marcelo Demoliner (BRA)/ Divij Sharan (IND) vs Denys Molchanov (UKR)/ Artem Sitak (NZL)
[R1] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Denis Shapovalov (CAN) vs (3) Bob Bryan (USA)/ Mike Bryan (USA)

I am worried about Prajnesh's injury ... His clay court season already wasted due to injury and here also he retired after playing two tie-breaks ... Hopefully, he will recover before big W ... Mukund played a decent match against his higher ranked French opponent.

A tough doubles match for Rohan with Shapo against Bryans ... Divij and Marcelo r facing Sitak and Molchanov.


At $250K Nature Valley Open 2019, Nottingham, Great Britain (Grass)

[Q1] (8) Ankita Raina (IND,170) vs Kai-Lin Zhang (CHN,204)

Ankita is facing a Chinese challenge of Kai-Lin.

At €137K+H Surbiton Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[SF] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) bt (WC) Daniel Evans (GBR)/ Lloyd Glasspool (GBR) 64 67(3) 10-4

[F] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) vs (1) Marcel Granollers (ESP)/ Ben McLachlan (JPN)

Ram is in the doubles final with Kwon ... They defeated a British pair in the match tie-break, after losing the second set tie-break they dominated a super tie-break ... In the final, they r facing the top-seed pairing of McLachlan and Granollers.

Friday, June 07, 2019

Hockey News

At the FIH Hockey Series Final 2019, Bhubaneswar, India

Pool B
India bt Poland 3-1 (2-1)
Goal Scorers - Manpreet Singh (IND) 21' and 26', Harmanpreet Singh (IND) 36' PC and Mateusz Hulboj (POL) 25'

The Indians scored a very unimpressive win over the Polish team ... They were slow and playing with a lack of ideas on the field ... The Indian captain Manpreet scored 2 goals in the second period to give a lead and also helped to earn a penalty corner in the 35th minute ... He was deservingly man of the match.

Hockey News

At the FIH Hockey Series Final 2019, Bhubaneswar, India

Pool B
India bt Russia 10-0 (3-0)
Goal Scorers - Nilkanata Sharma (IND) 13', Simaranjeet Singh (IND) 19', Amit Rohidas (IND) 20', Harmanpreet Singh (IND) 32' PC and 48' PC, Varun Kumar (IND) 33' PC, Gursahibjit Singh (IND) 38', Akashdeep Singh (IND) 41' and 55', Vivek Sagar Prasad (IND) 45'

The Indian team demolished the helpless Russian side in the lop-sided match ... They started slowly but from the second period, they took control of the match ... In that, they showed the difference between the 6th ranked team and the 22nd ranked team.

Thursday, June 06, 2019

Tennis News

At € 137K + H Surbiton Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[QF] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR) / Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) bt (4) Jonathan Erlich (ISR) / Artem Sitak (NZL) 62 76(5)

[SF] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) vs (WC) Daniel Evans (GBR)/ Lloyd Glasspool (GBR)

Ram and Soonwoo scored an excellent straight sets win over the 4th seed Erlich and Sitak for entering into the semis on this grass court challenger ... In the semis, they r facing a British wild-card pairing of Evans and Glasspool.

Wednesday, June 05, 2019

Football News

At the 47th King's Cup 2019, Buriram, Thailand

India l Curacao 1-3 (1-3)
Goal Scored - Sunil Chhetri (IND) 30' P and Luis Bonevacia (CUR) 15', Elson Oohoi (CUR) 18', Leandro Bacuna (CUR) 33'

Igor Stimac's reign as the head coach of the Indian team got off to a losing start as India succumbed to a 1-3 defeat to Curacao in the opening fixture of the 47th King's Cup ... In the first half, we committed too many defensive errors and that cost us the match ... In the second half, we showed improve performance and played a structured game to hold the Carribean side.

Tennis News

At $100K ITF Women Tournament 2019, Surbiton, Great Britain (Grass)

[R1] (Q) Ankita Raina (IND,170) l (WC) Katy Dunne (GBR,262) 36 36

Ankita failed to repeat her qualifying performance and lost easily against Katy Dunne.

At €137K+H Surbiton Challenger 2019, Great Britain

[R2] Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,144) l (15) Matthias Bachinger (GER,126) 64 46 36

Doubles
[R1] N. Sriram Balaji (IND)/ Jamie Cerretani (USA) l (1) Marcel Granollers (ESP)/ Ben McLachlan (JPN) 36 16
[R1] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) bt Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND)/ Purav Raja (IND) 64 63
[R1] (2) Marcelo Demoliner (BRA)/ Divij Sharan (IND) l (WC) Daniel Evans (GBR)/ Lloyd Glasspool (GBR) 57 76(5) 8-10

[QF] Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND) vs (4) Jonathan Erlich (ISR)/ Artem Sitak (NZL)

Ram failed to convert his good start against an experienced Bachinger ... Ram won the first set but failed to keep momentum in the next two sets.

In the doubles, Ram scored a victory with his Korean partner Kwon ... They defeated a good pairing of Jeevan and Purav in straight sets ... Next Ram and Kwon will be facing the 4th seed Erlich and Sitak.
Divij-Marcelo lost in the match tie-break against the British pair in their first match on the grass ... Bala and Cerretani failed to challenge the top-seeds in their one-sided loss.


At €69K+H Poznan Challenger 2019, Poland

[R2] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) l (13) Alessandro Giannessi (ITA,164) 57 63 36

Sumit gave another excellent fighting performance against an in-form Alessandro Giannessi in three sets loss ... The last week, Giannessi won the Challenger title in Italy without losing a set, so Sumit really played well against him ... After losing the first set Sumit fought back to win the second ... But he failed to complete win in this long match.

Tuesday, June 04, 2019

Golf News

At Sectional Qualifying - 2019 U.S. Open Championship, Columbus, Ohio

2 Anirban Lahiri (IND) 67 65 -10
-----Failed to qualify--------------
T30 Shubhankar Sharma (IND) 69 71 -2

Anirban Lahiri qualifies for the 119th US Open, which will be played on June 13-16, 2019 ... He and Shubhankar played in the Sectional qualifying held in Columbus, Ohio ... The top-14 were going to qualify, Anirban showed top form and qualified with a 2nd place finish with the 10-under final score ... Shubhankar missed as he managed only 2-under final score to finish way behind in the standing ... This will be Anirban's third major of the year.

Tennis News

At $100K ITF Women Tournament 2019, Surbiton, Great Britain (Grass)

[Q1] (5) Ankita Raina (IND,170) bt Myrtille Georges (FRA,234) 76(6) 61
[Q2] (5) Ankita Raina (IND,170) bt Sabine Lisicki (GER,297) 63 61

[R1] (Q) Ankita Raina (IND,170) vs (WC) Katy Dunne (GBR,262)

Ankita started her grass court season with a bang ... She played 2 qualifying matches in a day ... In the first qualifying round, she defeated a Frenchwoman Myrtille Georges ... Next, she faced a former Wimbledon finalist and former WR #12 Sabine Lisicki ... Ankita showed dominating performance against Lisicki and won the match losing only 4 games ... In the first round, she is facing a British wild-card player, Katy Dunne.

At €137K+H Surbiton Challenger 2019, Great Britain (Grass)

[R1] Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,144) bt Tobias Kamke (GER,255) 63 36 61

[R2] Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND,144) vs (15) Matthias Bachinger (GER,126)

Doubles
[R1] N. Sriram Balaji (IND)/ Jamie Cerretani (USA) vs (1) Marcel Granollers (ESP)/ Ben McLachlan (JPN)
[R1] Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND)/ Purav Raja (IND) vs Soonwoo Kwon (KOR)/ Ramkumar Ramanathan (IND)
[R1] (2) Marcelo Demoliner (BRA)/ Divij Sharan (IND) vs (WC) Daniel Evans (GBR)/ Lloyd Glasspool (GBR)

Ram started with a win in his first grass court season match ... He defeated an experienced German, Tobias Kamke, in three sets ... Next, he is facing a German top-130 player, Matthias Bachinger.

In the doubles, Divij and Marcelo r the 2nd seeds and they r facing a British wild-card pair ... Jeevan is back with Purav and they r facing Ram and Kwon ... Bala is playing with an experienced Cerretani, but having a tough match against the top-seeds.


At €69K+H Poznan Challenger 2019, Poland

[R1] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) bt Constant Lestienne (FRA,192) 63 57 63

[R2] Sumit Nagal (IND,280) vs (13) Alessandro Giannessi (ITA,164)

An excellent win by Sumit against the top-200 Frenchman, Lestienne, in three sets ... Next, another tough match against the top-175 Italian, Alessandro Giannessi.

At €92K+H Prostejov Challenger 2019, Czech Republic

[R1] Nikola Cacic (SRB)/ Vishnu Vardhan (IND) l (2) Denys Molchanov (UKR)/ Igor Zelenay (SVK) 26 64 8-10

Vishnu and his partner Nikola stretched the 2nd seeds till the match tie-break ... In the MTB, they were leading 7-6 but failed to complete the win.

At $81K+H Little Rock Challenger 2019, U.S.A.

[Q1] (1) Arjun Kadhe (IND,399) l Orlando Luz (BRA,457) 46 46

Doubles
[R1] (4) Arjun Kadhe (IND)/ Volodoymyr Uzhylovskyi (UKR) l (PR) Zhe Li (CHN)/ Dudi Sela (ISR) 26 57

After losing in the singles qualifying, Arjun played in the doubles in this US challenger ... He was the 4th seed with his Ukrainian partner and they faced Dudi Sela and Zhe Li in the first round ... Sela and Li defeated them comfortably in straight sets.

Sunday, June 02, 2019

Golf News

At $9.1M the Memorial Tournament 2019, Dublin, Ohio, USA

T52 Anirban Lahiri (IND) 67 76 75 71 +1 $21,221
T62 Shubhankar Sharma (IND) 73 71 69 78 +3 $19,474

Anirban's two over par rounds cost him a good finish in his favorite Memorial tournament ... At least a single poor round vow continued for Shubhankar ... After the third round, he was 3-under but the final round of 6-over pushed him down in the final standing.

At $5M U.S. Women's Open 2019, Charleston, South Carolina, U.S.A.

T39 Aditi Ashok (IND) 72 71 75 71 +5 $19,492

Aditi failed to score under par round and 4-over third round cost her finish inside the top-25.

Tennis News

At French Open 2019, Roland Garros, Paris, France

[R3] Rohan Bopanna (IND)/ Marius Copil (ROU) l Dusan Lajovic (SRB)/ Janko Tipsarevic (SRB) 61 57 67(8)

Rohan and Marius lost in a close match against the Serbian pair ... After winning the first set easily Rohan and Marius failed to complete win in two sets ... They lost the second set and missed match point in the third to lose close tie-break and match.

At $25K M25 Nonthaburi 2019, Thailand

[R1] (3) Sidharth Rawat (IND,510,ITF-447) bt Jirat Navasirisomboon (THA,ITF-869) 62 75
[R2] (3) Sidharth Rawat (IND,510,ITF-447) bt Kasidit Samrej (THA,UNR) 46 61 63
[QF] (3) Sidharth Rawat (IND,510,ITF-447) bt Rishab Agarwal (IND,ITF-1778) 57 62 64
[SF] (3) Sidharth Rawat (IND,510,ITF-447) bt (8) Yu Hsiou Hsu (TPE,625, ITF-189) 64 62

Singles Final
(3) Sidharth Rawat (IND,510,ITF-447) bt (5) Rio Noguchi (JPN,566,ITF-101) 75 60

Sid lifted his first ITF title in Thailand ... After so many years of struggle, he managed to lift title, hats off to his perseverance and hoping few more titles to him ... Here in the final, he defeated a Japanese youngster, Rio Noguchi in straight sets.

Saturday, June 01, 2019

Tennis News

At French Open 2019, Roland Garros, Paris, France

[R2] Leander Paes (IND)/ Benoit Paire (FRA) l (3) Juan Sebastian Cabal (COL)/ Robert Farah (COL) 06 64 36

Mixed Doubles
[R1] (Alt) Jessica Moore (AUS)/ Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan (IND) l (6) Hao-Ching Chan (TPE)/ Oliver Marach (AUT) 75 46 5-10

Lee and Benoit lost after giving a decent fight to the in-form Colombian pair ... They lost first set easily but fought back to win the second set ... Our pair failed to keep momentum in the third and Cabal-Farah took advantage for completing the win.

Jeevan got chance to play the MxD with Jessica Moore as an alternate pair ... They started well after winning the first set against the 6th seed, Chan and Marach ... Chan and Marach raised their game to win the second set and completed win after winning the match tie-break comfortably.

Table Tennis News

At $70K ITTF Challenge Plus Oman Open 2020 , Muscat, Oman [R32] Harmeet Desai (IND,87) bt Jeremy Hazin (CAN,164) 4-0 (12-10, 11-8, 11-4,...